We should try to organize ourselves first as integrated psychological parts within individuals, then as individuals within families, then as families within ICs/tribes/villages, then as tribes within federations, then as federations within states, then as states within federations of states, then as one UN, with each level doing what organismal levels do for their parts: reduce internal competition, increase cooperation, keep part autonomy somewhat with a membrane and the abstraction of information costs it affords, and have more resource sharing within than without. And in order to do that, we need to have 1. A balance of liberals and conservatives at various levels (To be empirically determined). 2. Local economies, both pre-industrial and new ones that we figure out like plastics recycling and 3D printing. Religions will emerge from the meaning provided by higher levels and nature connection, to offer further glue.
If it doesn't work, we can try other ideas (and others will have to come up with those, as I am currently betting on this one), but we know it works for biological organisms already, and it used to work up to the level of tribes, and even federation of tribes for the Iroquois, before capitalism, and we are starting to understand the theoretical reasons for WHY it works.
What specifically do you mean by organizing first as integrated psychological parts within individuals? I searched your previous post for "psychological" but nothing came up.
substack doesn't have that search functionality, it's sub-standard ;-) OK, I'll spare you reading my posts and I'll just say that an individual is a collective of psychological parts. The categorizing can go many ways. One common way is right/left brain. Another is conservative/liberal parts. A third way is the way Internal Family Systems therapy does it, with more than 2 parts that each have a task and a personality. And a fourth is different modules, like cortex, hypothalamus, Wernicke's, amygdala, etc. These are all emergent levels themselves, ultimately composed of, but not reducible to neurons, synapses and other cells (which are themselves composed of organelles).
So, Iuval, throw me a bone. What should we try? And if it does not work, what's your plan B?
We should try to organize ourselves first as integrated psychological parts within individuals, then as individuals within families, then as families within ICs/tribes/villages, then as tribes within federations, then as federations within states, then as states within federations of states, then as one UN, with each level doing what organismal levels do for their parts: reduce internal competition, increase cooperation, keep part autonomy somewhat with a membrane and the abstraction of information costs it affords, and have more resource sharing within than without. And in order to do that, we need to have 1. A balance of liberals and conservatives at various levels (To be empirically determined). 2. Local economies, both pre-industrial and new ones that we figure out like plastics recycling and 3D printing. Religions will emerge from the meaning provided by higher levels and nature connection, to offer further glue.
If it doesn't work, we can try other ideas (and others will have to come up with those, as I am currently betting on this one), but we know it works for biological organisms already, and it used to work up to the level of tribes, and even federation of tribes for the Iroquois, before capitalism, and we are starting to understand the theoretical reasons for WHY it works.
More fleshing out is in my previous posts.
Nifty. I am in wholehearted support.
What specifically do you mean by organizing first as integrated psychological parts within individuals? I searched your previous post for "psychological" but nothing came up.
substack doesn't have that search functionality, it's sub-standard ;-) OK, I'll spare you reading my posts and I'll just say that an individual is a collective of psychological parts. The categorizing can go many ways. One common way is right/left brain. Another is conservative/liberal parts. A third way is the way Internal Family Systems therapy does it, with more than 2 parts that each have a task and a personality. And a fourth is different modules, like cortex, hypothalamus, Wernicke's, amygdala, etc. These are all emergent levels themselves, ultimately composed of, but not reducible to neurons, synapses and other cells (which are themselves composed of organelles).
Actually, we were both too hard on Substack! :-)
I tried it again, and it did work, pulled most of your posts.
So what in the stuff you wrote above is actionable, and how?